Career WAR and PAB by Player (1993-2025)

PlayerCareer WARSeasons
Raef LaFrentz20.204
Frank Mason19.344
Nick Collison19.224
Wayne Simien18.954
Perry Ellis18.354
Sherron Collins16.724
Paul Pierce14.823
Marcus Morris14.813
Mario Chalmers14.233
Marcus Garrett13.614
Devonte’ Graham13.574
Kirk Hinrich12.994
Keith Langford12.934
Jalen Wilson12.914
Cole Aldrich12.773
Drew Gooden12.743
Jacque Vaughn12.344
Devon Dotson11.212
Ochai Agbaji10.904
Scot Pollard10.764
Thomas Robinson10.763
Hunter Dickinson10.452
Brandon Rush10.313
Udoka Azubuike10.214
Jeff Withey10.164
Jerod Haase9.923
Kenny Gregory9.894
Markieff Morris9.603
K.J. Adams9.394
Dajuan Harris8.885
Darnell Jackson8.754
Wayne Selden8.663
Christian Braun8.573
Tyshawn Taylor8.404
Aaron Miles8.364
Ryan Robertson8.334
Eric Chenowith8.264
Steve Woodberry8.182
Darrell Arthur8.132
Travis Releford7.994
Sasha Kaun7.724
Greg Ostertag7.683
David McCormack7.134
Kevin McCullar6.762
Julian Wright6.332
Dedric Lawson6.181
Landen Lucas5.644
Ben McLemore5.491
Russell Robinson5.324
Andrew Wiggins5.111
Billy Thomas5.074
Nick Bradford4.974
Svi Mykhailiuk4.774
Richard Scott4.642
Elijah Johnson4.434
Rex Walters4.431
Jeff Boschee4.124
Josh Jackson4.041
Adonis Jordan3.821
Malik Newman3.761
Xavier Henry3.741
Joel Embiid3.701
Tyrel Reed3.664
Zeke Mayo3.481
Gradey Dick3.231
Kelly Oubre3.061
Jeff Graves2.962
Patrick Richey2.522
Kevin Young2.502
Sean Pearson2.384
Brannen Greene2.143
Eric Pauley2.111
Lagerald Vick2.034
Mario Little1.992
Darrin Hancock1.921
J.R. Giddens1.902
Remy Martin1.761
Lester Earl1.713
Isaiah Moss1.631
Flory Bidunga1.591
C.J. Giles1.562
Greg Gurley1.463
Cliff Alexander1.371
Tarik Black1.261
Naadir Tharpe1.023
Josh Selby0.901
Jalen Coleman-Lands0.891
Johnny Furphy0.881
Silvio De Sousa0.692
David Padgett0.551
Andrew White0.552
Brady Morningstar0.554
K.J. Lawson0.491
Chris Zerbe0.492
Carlton Bragg0.462
Ashante Johnson0.452
Nick Proud0.431
Alex Galindo0.411
Tyon Grant-Foster0.391
Michael Lee0.384
Rodrick Stewart0.343
Dwight Coleby0.291
T.J. Pugh0.244
Luke Axtell0.212
Rylan Griffen0.201
Conner Teahan0.174
Ernest Udeh0.161
David Coit0.161
Micah Downs0.151
Tyrone Appleton0.121
Justin Cross0.121
Joel Branstrom0.112
Jeremy Case0.084
Conner Frankamp0.051
Omar Wilkes0.051
Jeff Carey0.024
Todd Kappelmann0.022
James Sosinski0.011
Will Thengvall0.011
Chris Huey0.001
Hunter Mickelson0.002
C.J. Henry-0.011
Merv Lindsay-0.021
Latrell Jossell-0.021
Chris Carter-0.041
Josh Pollard-0.041
Zuby Ejiofor-0.041
Robert Reed-0.051
Cam Martin-0.061
Wilder Evers-0.072
Scott Novosel-0.081
Quintrell Thomas-0.101
Kyle Cuffe-0.101
Blake Weichbrodt-0.102
Gethro Muscadin-0.111
T.J. Whatley-0.124
Royce Woolridge-0.131
Shakeel Moore-0.131
Sam Cunliffe-0.131
Steve Ransom-0.132
Jordan Juenemann-0.144
Cheick Diallo-0.151
B.J. Williams-0.164
Marlon London-0.162
Patrick Cassidy-0.162
Tucker Vang-0.171
Nicolas Timberlake-0.171
Christian Moody-0.224
Terry Nooner-0.234
Jamari Traylor-0.244
Elijah Elliott-0.251
Bryce Thompson-0.271
Garrett Luinstra-0.281
Clay Young-0.283
Zach Clemence-0.303
Michael Jankovich-0.305
Lewis Harrison-0.312
Brett Olson-0.312
Parker Braun-0.321
Nick Bahe-0.332
Matt Kleinmann-0.344
Dillon Wilhite-0.343
Jamari McDowell-0.351
Brennan Bechard-0.373
John Crider-0.402
Brad Witherspoon-0.412
Chris Teahan-0.455
Chris Martin-0.472
C.B. McGrath-0.484
M.J. Rice-0.481
Rio Adams-0.491
Charlie Moore-0.491
Chase Buford-0.523
Evan Manning-0.534
Niko Roberts-0.574
Mario Kinsey-0.571
Mitch Lightfoot-0.585
A.J. Storr-0.581
Christian Garrett-0.634
Rakease Passmore-0.701
Tristan Enaruna-0.752
Joseph Yesufu-0.762
Jelani Janisse-0.762
Moulaye Niang-0.773
Calvin Rayford-0.913
Stephen Vinson-0.974
Tyler Self-0.974
Quentin Grimes-1.081
Brett Ballard-1.192
Elmarko Jackson-1.221
Bryant Nash-1.244
Bobby Pettiford-1.252
Justin Wesley-1.463
Jeff Hawkins-1.514
PlayerCareer PABPer100 Est
Raef LaFrentz602.099.56
Wayne Simien562.1411.40
Nick Collison560.978.24
Frank Mason479.826.31
Perry Ellis469.447.44
Paul Pierce421.887.95
Marcus Morris403.978.84
Sherron Collins400.725.63
Drew Gooden385.308.58
Mario Chalmers357.306.51
Cole Aldrich345.198.52
Marcus Garrett308.444.98
Jalen Wilson306.665.50
Kirk Hinrich304.844.16
Jacque Vaughn291.664.38
Devon Dotson284.807.35
Keith Langford283.424.12
Scot Pollard279.645.80
Thomas Robinson279.478.16
Hunter Dickinson269.997.39
Devonte’ Graham268.483.41
Udoka Azubuike261.537.35
Jerod Haase246.405.12
Markieff Morris241.416.55
Jeff Withey240.365.92
Kenny Gregory223.384.00
Steve Woodberry216.526.15
Greg Ostertag216.087.13
Darnell Jackson212.285.85
Darrell Arthur206.436.90
Brandon Rush204.463.43
Ochai Agbaji193.472.78
K.J. Adams177.083.13
Dedric Lawson172.468.37
Sasha Kaun168.744.34
Christian Braun163.933.25
Eric Chenowith158.102.91
Ryan Robertson150.492.57
Wayne Selden148.712.64
Kevin McCullar147.544.36
Julian Wright145.374.86
David McCormack142.053.48
Travis Releford133.962.57
Ben McLemore133.876.42
Andrew Wiggins124.876.22
Rex Walters117.236.51
Richard Scott101.613.66
Joel Embiid99.258.77
Tyshawn Taylor97.721.38
Landen Lucas96.692.57
Josh Jackson94.795.02
Aaron Miles93.341.24
Adonis Jordan89.374.53
Xavier Henry86.154.97
Billy Thomas81.851.98
Malik Newman74.523.45
Zeke Mayo71.143.77
Nick Bradford67.861.58
Kelly Oubre67.715.12
Dajuan Harris65.960.73
Gradey Dick58.532.84
Jeff Graves46.602.02
Darrin Hancock39.993.25
Eric Pauley36.862.41
Mario Little35.662.80
Remy Martin31.782.86
Russell Robinson30.950.53
Flory Bidunga29.763.07
Patrick Richey26.921.05
Kevin Young26.411.20
Lester Earl24.221.47
Tarik Black22.962.93
Cliff Alexander22.902.66
Svi Mykhailiuk22.670.42
Brannen Greene21.841.16
C.J. Giles21.181.65
Isaiah Moss21.011.63
Jalen Coleman-Lands16.032.84
Chris Zerbe15.8911.80
Nick Proud13.968.31
Greg Gurley11.530.70
Tyrel Reed8.490.19
Silvio De Sousa8.151.42
Andrew White7.601.83
Josh Selby6.290.68
Elijah Johnson5.440.10
Tyon Grant-Foster5.081.63
Dwight Coleby3.881.65
Alex Galindo3.870.97
Justin Cross3.6724.72
Ashante Johnson3.580.62
K.J. Lawson2.970.49
Tyrone Appleton1.842.24
Joel Branstrom1.241.05
Sean Pearson0.610.02
James Sosinski0.060.40
Will Thengvall-0.01-0.10
Chris Huey-0.02-1.29
Omar Wilkes-1.23-0.96
Chris Carter-1.47-81.38
Micah Downs-1.68-0.63
Robert Reed-1.83-20.92
Latrell Jossell-1.88-4.14
Merv Lindsay-1.94-3.96
Todd Kappelmann-1.96-1.58
Josh Pollard-2.03-8.91
Cam Martin-2.84-15.49
Scott Novosel-3.84-10.44
Kyle Cuffe-3.98-36.61
C.J. Henry-3.99-3.12
Wilder Evers-4.34-7.25
Gethro Muscadin-5.36-9.57
Blake Weichbrodt-5.43-5.85
David Padgett-6.22-0.60
Ernest Udeh-6.41-1.46
Royce Woolridge-6.71-8.72
Patrick Cassidy-6.93-17.73
Tucker Vang-6.95-24.81
Johnny Furphy-7.52-0.54
Zuby Ejiofor-7.74-3.46
Steve Ransom-8.07-6.99
Sam Cunliffe-8.39-6.48
T.J. Whatley-8.46-3.81
Conner Frankamp-9.16-2.33
Elijah Elliott-9.85-26.80
Jordan Juenemann-10.16-5.64
Garrett Luinstra-10.42-54.12
Quintrell Thomas-10.42-4.25
J.R. Giddens-13.29-0.45
Dillon Wilhite-14.16-18.38
Brett Olson-14.17-11.40
Cheick Diallo-15.21-4.30
Clay Young-15.25-7.92
Nick Bahe-15.29-8.48
Luke Axtell-15.41-1.44
Lewis Harrison-15.68-10.67
Michael Jankovich-15.72-8.46
Brennan Bechard-16.31-14.79
Hunter Mickelson-16.39-2.81
Brad Witherspoon-16.44-22.92
John Crider-16.57-16.62
Terry Nooner-17.34-4.46
Shakeel Moore-18.02-3.71
Rodrick Stewart-18.30-1.71
David Coit-19.95-2.17
Chris Martin-20.02-22.88
Jeremy Case-20.26-2.51
Carlton Bragg-20.96-1.56
Rio Adams-21.25-14.29
Chase Buford-21.45-20.43
Chris Teahan-21.93-10.15
Matt Kleinmann-22.07-6.44
Jamari McDowell-23.30-5.95
Evan Manning-23.76-12.57
Zach Clemence-23.88-5.05
Parker Braun-23.89-5.38
Niko Roberts-23.94-16.09
Christian Garrett-25.09-21.08
Rylan Griffen-25.32-2.17
M.J. Rice-25.78-8.48
Mario Kinsey-26.22-10.70
Bryce Thompson-26.32-4.42
Rakease Passmore-30.60-15.11
Nicolas Timberlake-31.71-3.47
Jelani Janisse-33.52-19.95
Jeff Carey-37.13-2.62
Tyler Self-38.61-23.72
Jeff Boschee-39.46-0.55
Charlie Moore-40.09-4.99
Conner Teahan-44.97-2.48
A.J. Storr-46.29-4.95
Moulaye Niang-46.84-6.83
C.B. McGrath-49.94-4.38
Stephen Vinson-50.33-10.27
Tristan Enaruna-53.77-5.46
Naadir Tharpe-55.75-1.67
Marlon London-58.95-3.21
Brett Ballard-59.02-11.75
Michael Lee-62.49-2.17
Joseph Yesufu-63.93-4.81
Christian Moody-65.36-3.05
Bobby Pettiford-68.99-7.94
Justin Wesley-70.99-9.75
Lagerald Vick-73.99-1.40
Elmarko Jackson-74.52-6.72
Quentin Grimes-86.43-5.01
Calvin Rayford-87.98-4.65
Bryant Nash-88.18-6.00
T.J. Pugh-94.72-2.50
B.J. Williams-108.62-2.95
Jamari Traylor-111.52-3.01
Jeff Hawkins-113.17-5.20
Mitch Lightfoot-114.75-3.57
Brady Morningstar-116.05-2.39

WAR vs. PAB

Wins Above Replacement (WAR) and PAB (Points Against Bubble) have similar concepts and therefore the lists will be similar. Both are attempting to rank the careers of all KU players since 1993 to see which Jayhawks have been the most valuable for the program. The differences stem from the benchmark player upon which value is judged. In WAR, the “replacement player” is basically an average D1 player whereas in PAB, the “bubble player” is a player whose value makes a bubble team no more or less likely to make the tournament. In other words, a bubble player is a much higher standard than a replacement player.

So why the two lists? Which list is more valid?

At the top of the list there isn’t a ton of difference as guys like Raef LaFrentz easily clear the bubble level just as they clear the replacement level. It is further down the list where this distinction matters. Take Jeff Boschee for instance. Boschee was a four-year starter who is currently 57th in career WAR but 168th in PAB. Boschee was better than a replacement player but not better than a bubble-level player for the majority of his career1.

These are widely different rankings, leading to the follow-up question, which list is better? Well, it depends. Being a better-than-bubble player is crucial for KU to approach the success demanded of it. So we would normally lean with PAB. However, sometimes players who are not quite at bubble-level (but still solid enough to be above replacement level) are required to play heavy minutes due to roster issues or coaching decisions, and it wouldn’t be fully accurate to list these players below low-minutes-played players because of this. Boschee serves as a great example. He was certainly a below-KU-average guard given the minutes he played, particularly as an underclassman. But he was still valuable because he was better than the alternatives at his position.2 This is where WAR can be a better metric.

There is a third way to measure that is present, namely Per100 (possession) against bubble value. This is the third column on the second table. This shows the value the player provided while on the court, effectively ignoring playing time. Be aware of the limitations of this measurement. One, if we sorted by this list we’d include walk-ons at the top who graded out very well in very small, unimportant minutes. Two, durability is an important feature inherent to both WAR and PAB but ignored in Per100 value. A player who generates high value per possession but does not stay healthy throughout the year may not help the team as much as someone who can play a full schedule and heavy minutes at a lower value. A four-year player with solid value (like Marcus Garrett) will provide more value to KU than an elite one-and-done (like Joel Embiid).

Both WAR and PAB are useful lists but cannot be considered in isolation. If we are looking toward the top of the list, PAB is the better measurement. It estimates how many points a player gave to Kansas above that of a bubble-player over his career. Toward the middle and bottom of the list, WAR becomes the better mark. Clearly role players with sub-bubble (but above-replacement) value are preferable to the walk-ons. Lastly, Per100 can add some more context but we must be careful to not over-emphasize this measure as it is total value, not per possession value, that is most important when determining this ranking.

  1. Boschee’s only above-bubble season was his senior year in 2002. ↩︎
  2. Marlon London and Jelani Janisse are examples of other backcourt players on the roster in the Boschee-era. KU’s backcourt talent depth was quite thin during Boschee’s first three seasons at Kansas. ↩︎

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